Thursday, May 13, 2010

Link: Caucasians=Neanderthal Hybrid, Asian=Erectus Hybrid, Africans=Pure Breed?

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20627603.600-neanderthals-not-the-only-apes-humans-bred-with.html?DCMP=OTC-rss&nsref=online-news

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  1. Pure Breed? What about the fact that there is more genetic diversity in Africa than out of it?

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    1. Do you think that it could be possible that the first true humans might have had all of the genetic diversity that you see in all of the races..isn't it possible that the reason that the caucasion, negro, Mongoloid, etc..other races are so different is because of lost genetic diversity.?..when they breed their offspring regain some of the lost genetic diversity, thus creating a stronger gene pool?

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    2. What does that mean, "had all the genetic diversity"? They had all the genes that are in all humans alive today? If that were your claim, I would say that you are going to need a -lot- of evidence to support it.

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  2. Yes, that's absolutely true. I'm just saying that they potentially aren't a hybrid (at least within the last 200k years). Whites are Neanderthal hybrids, maybe Asians are Erectus hybrids (in addition to Neanderthal), but Africans may be pure Homo sapiens. Maybe. Who knows.

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    1. Asians (Orientals) look like light skinned khoisan bushmen with straight hair. Both have squinty eyes and very little body hair compared to Neanderthal hybrids. Like the woolly rhino and the mammoth the men of the north grew shaggy in the ice age. Perhaps the Denisovans developed in a milder climate and were a less hairy race of Neanderthal that mixed with H. Sapiens. Erectus looked like negros with a smaller braincase.

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  3. When they say Homo Sapiens developed in east Africa 200k years ago - what do you think was living in rest of Africa? Mr. Erectus still populated the forest while Homo Sapiens (Khoisan Bushmen)took over the grasslands. The H.Sapiens that stayed in Africa mixed with H. Erectus to become forest Negros. Those that left Africa met the burly, stocky, Dwarves of the North (Neanderthals) who had beards, wore clothing, practiced religion and had knowledge of many things from having lived in the frozen north for many ages. The offspring of these two became Cro-Magnon man who took over Europe and central Asia

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  4. Gosh. It's such an epic story, isn't it? Crossing the Red Sea, colonizing the Pacific islands, crossing the frigid Bering Straights, meeting new species of humans, fighting the new species, having sex with the new species, battling giant Ice Age beasts, warring tribes, making fire and stone axes. Perhaps I'm over glamorizing it, but it just seems so damn cool.

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  5. It was the countless lives of our ancestors who's awareness grew with every new adaptation. I believe there is a genetic memory that transfers through the ages - what people simply label as "instinct" has much deeper implications.
    The question is can someone tap into their genetic memory to get an understanding of the past. Can a still, silent mind find that knowledge buried in the depths of their mind. Even my dog somehow knew how to dig moles out of the ground with out ever seeing one or being trained to do so.

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  6. Yes, but what would that genetic memory tell us? How to manipulate or rape women, worry about the future so we that store food, avoid social conflict so that we're paralyzed with anxiety and stage freight, let anger get the best of us in order to kill first...Certainly many positive things too, no doubt--child rearing, filial ties, reciprocal altruism, etc. I'm just wondering how much I want to listen to my genes...

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  7. I'm not talking about indulging in primitive impulses. I'm wondering if the mind is capable of seeing clear visions of the ancient world through these genetic memories. The reason I ask is because my own visions of the ancient world seem more realistic than any documentary or movie I've ever watched.
    Unfortunately, I don't have the drawing or sketching skill to prove it. (my hands shake too much)>;( By the way - delving into the past is not nearly as scary as the future. Unless one is is afraid of delving into their own mind. One thing you notice about wild primitive people is that they are not conquered by fear. they are still a part of the natural order and death is just a companion in a dream they call life.

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  8. We'll find out hopefully someday as the fragments of genes from fossils are pieced together!

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